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The question of nearby habitation settlements is precisely why I was so curious about the lack of kitchen ware found. Were the nearby sites mentioned (eg Vigla and Kokkinokremo) more used for habitation for those working in the Koutsopetria area, or is there no such link known?

As far as cities go, it's a small one, like 80,000. So it's too small to use the bus. If you need to get to the other side of town (or to the cinema!), cabs are good.


Re: Surviving Larnaka by dpettegrewdpettegrew, 21 May 2009 03:46

I think that Rachel brings up an interesting point. I also think it would be interesting to know how these settlements interacted and had relations with the rest of the island as well as any off island civilizations. How would/could this be determined or theorized? How would an archeologist determine this?

No worries about this—we'll explain all of this on Sunday or Monday. Remember these questions when we discuss.

Re: Excavation Manual by dpettegrewdpettegrew, 21 May 2009 03:39

We will certainly taunt you if your non-Marshalltown breaks!

Re: Excavation Manual by dpettegrewdpettegrew, 21 May 2009 03:38

One thing that struck me when reading these articles was the maps of finds. I thought the grid maps very interesting and they reminded me of a population density map. However, these maps where showing the amount of shreds found in an area from a certain time. I found it interesting that you could track the artifact density grids and see how the amount of artifacts differs from time period to time period.

I also found it hard to understand some of the language used in the articles as well as some of the techniques. Also, i found the descriptions of the site hard to visualize without photographs.

Not to worry, one is enough. We'll explain these notebooks once we're there.

Re: Excavation Manual by dpettegrewdpettegrew, 21 May 2009 03:37

I think a good point was already brought up; Cyprus was important for trade and some of the findings reinforce that. Something that surprised me was the quantity of artifacts discovered. All of this shows that there were significant human settlements and the land had multiple uses. It also helps to establish a time line for the area. It would be nice to know if these sites had an impact or any relation with the rest of the island.

I think the most difficult part in reading this was trying to understand the implications of the findings and some of the conclusions drawn as a result of the fieldwork. A few of the parts I was thinking something different from the article, but that is definitely due to my lack of knowledge and full understanding.

It is interesting that both Caitlin and Alex mentioned the lack of kitchens. While reading about this part, I thought rather than being a site for production or trade, maybe the lack of kitchen ware gave an idea about the people and their lifestyle. This discovery, or lack of discovery, could show a lot about life on the island. This could perhaps show that the inhabitants in this area were more primitive or ate food that did not need to be cooked, but I might be stretching this idea. One question I thought of was is this typical for coastal sites, not only in Cyprus, but other areas?

Caitlin mentioned the lack of kitchen where that was discovered at the site. This is odd since if the site was used as a harbor as the rest of the evidence suggests then it would need some habitation for dock workers and sailors. I do not remember the readings mentioning any habitation close by. Yet any commercial enterprise, be it a port or factory, would have to have some settlement within walking distance. Perhaps these settlements have yet to be found or perhaps they were temporary dwellings that left little in print on the land. Either way the lack of kitchen supplies poses a question of what habitation was near the area.

I feel a lot better about communicating now. I was initially concerned, but like Rachel, after reading the posts by the staff, I don't feel like it will be a problem. I am looking forward to talking with people and getting to know their culture better.

Also, Dimitri, I'd be up for learning a bit of Greek.

Re: Surviving Larnaka by Matt HenesyMatt Henesy, 20 May 2009 22:05

I was wondering this as well. The feel I got was that it is more of a walking city, is that right? Also, I also had the same question Kyle had about the ages of the people we will be interacting with throughout the trip.

Re: Surviving Larnaka by Matt HenesyMatt Henesy, 20 May 2009 22:00

I was also wondering about the notebooks. I have one for personal use, one to be turned in and one for the field. Should I grab an extra one for the field or is one enough?

Re: Excavation Manual by Melissa HoganMelissa Hogan, 20 May 2009 19:45

I have a question about money. How much do people usually spend on this trip? I'm usually really frugal with my spending money, but just to have an idea of how much people have spent on souvenirs, food, etc. would be nice.

That's a good idea with the spreadsheet, Caitlin. Just to know for sure how much you've spent. Thanks!

Re: Surviving Larnaka by Melissa HoganMelissa Hogan, 20 May 2009 19:44

While I was reading all of this, i noticed that there is about a week between when we arrive and when we actually start excavating. Is there going to be like a little tutorial period or something? Because I agree with what everyone else said, seeing all of the things the manual talks about will make it so much easier to recognize and learn.

Re: Excavation Manual by Melissa HoganMelissa Hogan, 20 May 2009 19:36

I agree with Rachel…it was very helpful to have the copies of those forms to review. I was a little confused about them though - do we each fill out forms for our own areas or is there one person who is responsible for collecting and recording data?

Re: Excavation Manual by Caitlin BabcockCaitlin Babcock, 20 May 2009 18:39

Are any precautions taken to ensure that the sites are not tampered with while the staff isn't present (overnight for example)?

Re: Excavation Manual by RachelSkotnickiRachelSkotnicki, 20 May 2009 18:17

The example of the pages that need to be completed were very helpful and actually answered a lot of the questions I had. One of the things I found confusing were the abbreviations. What sort of permits or documentation needs to be obtained prior to excavating? What is included in the process of preparing for excavation? Also, will there be a lesson/example on how to properly use the trowel?

Re: Excavation Manual by RachelSkotnickiRachelSkotnicki, 20 May 2009 18:14

I was concerned about being unable to communicate, but after reading some of the posts by the PKAP staff, I don't think it will be as difficult as I imagined. That is a little reassuring.

Re: Surviving Larnaka by RachelSkotnickiRachelSkotnicki, 20 May 2009 17:59

Melissa, I enjoy watching the French Open as well! Hopefully it will be on while we're there!

One question I have is about the name of the city of Larnaka. While I was looking online, sometimes it was spelled "Larnaca." Is that the same city? Does the different spellings mean anything significant?

I had a similar concern as everyone else, and that was navigating the city. I looked up a few maps and this one might be helpful - I think, based on what I found on the website, the hotel is on Armenikis Eklisias. So E5 on the map, I think. The city looks pretty large and complicated.

Re: Surviving Larnaka by RachelSkotnickiRachelSkotnicki, 20 May 2009 17:55
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